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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 27, 2008 12:58:19 GMT 1
Just tried to start it again with my HIF44 bolted back on, I've no idea how its setup so I just tried it. I can't give it choke at the moment unless someone stands next to the car and pulls the lever. First try it didnt sound like it had petrol but I gave it a few seconds for the pump to work. Second try I turned the mixture screw clockwise and it sounded like it was about to start. Third try after turning it a little more the battery died so that on charge right now.  I want to give it the best chance of starting so should I make the mixture really rich then turn it back slowly? Whats the best way to go about it? Note : I havent moved the dizzy position since it started on the old carb. |
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 27, 2008 22:53:43 GMT 1
It'll aid cold starting if your choke cable is connected up. Don't go too rich otherwise you'll "flood the engine". The plugs will need to be taken out and dried off (of petrol). And charge that battery well.  |
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 28, 2008 15:26:56 GMT 1
Still not ok  I put the carb back together that I took apart because I thought it wasnt working. Bolted it back on, wired and piped it in. All good so far. I just tried to start it and it turned over! I was jumping for joy until the engine bay started smoking, I went for the keys but the engine didnt stop so I panicked and pulled the positive cable off the battery and it died (phew!!!) Went back to the front to check out where the smoke was coming from, looked like the exhaust manifold pipes and to the touch they were scorching considering it was only running for about 15 seconds. Whats wrong now?  |
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 28, 2008 16:25:31 GMT 1
Unless there s actually something flammable touching the manifold, IE cables, fuel pipes etc i would say that what was burning is likely to be oily grime etc.
What is more of a concern is that the ignition didn't switch off when you turned the key off.
Have a good look under the car just in case the battery cable is touching the exhaust somewhere.
And yes. Manifolds do get very hot very quickly, so beware.
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 28, 2008 16:30:30 GMT 1
The engine sounded ok but I had used a yogurt pot to hold the choke open and I think it might have been a little too much perhaps. I will have a quick check around the manifold and also check the entire length of the cable that goes to the starter. I'm wondering if it wouldnt turn off because of my coil wiring....  |
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 28, 2008 16:55:10 GMT 1
There's a PDF format Haynes Manual link on here somewhere. I ain't been able to find it for ages.   I wanted to check the wiring diagram for the Electronic dizzys. |
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 28, 2008 17:02:27 GMT 1
I dont have PhotoImpact installed on my new lappy yet so had to use Paint, and drawing using a touchpad is like painting with a sweeping brush.  Red = +12v Green = -12v I been told this is right... |
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 28, 2008 20:42:07 GMT 1
Well it was starting ok with the 998 carb, but was dying straight away so I wouldnt say it was stopping ok. I haven't changed anything on the car except swap the rocker cover and the throttle cable. The smoke was coming from the top of the pipes right behind the engine which havent had anything but a little bit of petrol spilled on them (more than 5 days previous) Just come across this on TMF, should I get it running on (keys out) and then turn the dizzy a touch and maybe itll stop? Then try starting it again on the key and hope that when I take the key out itll cut out too.... |
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 28, 2008 21:04:16 GMT 1
I will check tomorrow, but I dont think there is anything around the exhaust manifold that could account for it. I seen smoke and sh*t myself so went straight for the keys only to have a double whammy shock when it wouldnt stop. I'll try it again tomorrow but will let it run and see if its still smoking after a minute. My dad will be there to do the key working while I'm on the dangerous side of the car  No probs Phil, wouldnt want you to put yourself out for me. Like I said my dad will be here to try one or two things with me then I'll report back I put the Focus oil in again as I didnt have anything else to use, but I've heard you just put the oil that you put in your engine in the dashpot too? |
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 28, 2008 21:10:09 GMT 1
Yep. Phil beat me to it.
It sounds as if the timing is too far advanced which would cause the engine to run on.
Next time that happens put the car in first gear and let the clutch out with the handbrake on.
Then loosen the dizzy clamp and move the whole dizzy about 1/8 of an inch anti-clockwise. Tighten the clamp.
Try starting the engine again, then switch it off.
If it's still running on, repeat the procedure until it stops on the ignition switch.
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 28, 2008 21:13:28 GMT 1
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 28, 2008 21:23:53 GMT 1
They had machine oil or sumn in wickes for £1.20 but my old man said the guy in the garage reckoned engine oil was ok - it was easier to agree than to say I know better  I'll defo clamp the dizzy down first then |
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 29, 2008 13:32:53 GMT 1
A big thankyou again to Rob for popping in today to look at my poor mini. We got it running sort of now, I've just backed it up onto the ramps to reconnect the exhaust properly  The reason I couldnt kill the engine on the key was because the ignition is always live for some reason. Not sure when this happened but now it wont turn off even if you remove the key from the ignition barrel. Can anyone diagnose or give me advice on things to check? Thankoo! |
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 29, 2008 13:44:58 GMT 1
The smoke was just gunk and other crap, its all burnt off now. When we were taking the engine out we had grease, oil and other rubbish on my hands and I was wiggling the exhaust manifold pipes around trying to get them free and out of the way so I had probs covered them in the stuff.
It sounds sweet, although its not quite right because its still reving and idling unevenly but they are easy to sort out. The main thing is its almost driveable!!!!!!!!!
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 29, 2008 16:22:07 GMT 1
I'm not into wires either, but it sounds like the connections on your solenoid may be at fault. |
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 29, 2008 17:07:55 GMT 1
Forgive me, but where is the solenoid?
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Post by irishstick on Aug 29, 2008 18:38:32 GMT 1
its usually attached to the coil, or in the near area,, its a short cylinder with a couple of wires attached to the coil,,,
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 29, 2008 20:31:35 GMT 1
Its just the coil, nothing else around it. |
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Post by mini2infiniti on Aug 29, 2008 20:33:05 GMT 1
Another concern at the moment is that its getting red hot, really quickly and I dont remember this being the case on my 998. Also the carb started backfiring again when I tried to put it up the ramp forwards, was losing power constantly |
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 29, 2008 20:46:08 GMT 1
Has your stater motor got a "lump" on top of it.??
If so you've got a pre-engaged type starter which has the solenoid built into the top of it.
If its a plain round starter you've got the inertia type starter so the solenoid will probably be fixed to the inner wing
It should have the main battery cable going into it...
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