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Post by jjitaljob on Mar 9, 2009 20:29:42 GMT 1
looking into building another engine for the ital job but dont know what to do. im thinking along lines of standard block, wild cam and stage 2 head, any ideas on cams, g.box.s etc... this is going to be a daily driver 1275 standard ital job engine donor engine. i am using 1" 3/4 carb atm on my original engine and goes very well. would like it to be a very strong engine (defined by lots of hard earned cash going into it)
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Post by dai9fxey on Mar 9, 2009 22:53:06 GMT 1
How deep is your pocket.??  The swiftune SW range of cams seem to work well on the 1275s. They give good bottom end torque which is a must for a quickish road Mini and at the same time remains driveable around town. The 286 and 296 Kent cams are really only for track use with little grunt available until you hit about 3 1/2 to 4 thousand revs. |
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Post by ljonez on Mar 9, 2009 23:05:49 GMT 1
depends on how you drive really,
as dai said the sw5 is pretty good and allot of people have them as their fast road cam of choice. I've got one in my 998 and personally i wish i had gone for something a bit hotter.
you could try a morspeed ph2 cam which is more powerful but still retains drive ability around town
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Post by jjitaljob on Mar 10, 2009 18:54:08 GMT 1
i dont mind having to leave my foot on the happy pedal at traffic lights to keep it running put it that way. and no moneys not a issue. mid range torque would be better for how i want to drive so do you think the 286 would be better? whats the difference between the 286 and 296?
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Post by ljonez on Mar 10, 2009 20:03:49 GMT 1
whats the difference between the 286 and 296? 10 ;D on a serious note i would go any wilder than a 286 on a road car with out fitting megajolt or similar, for 2 main reasons 1) drive-ability 2) passing the emissions test saying that the 286 is a pretty dirty burning cam with its long duration. you could go for either the swift tune sw10 or morspeed phase 3 cams which are basically 286's but produce more torque lower down and have better idle and emissions if moneys not a issue bin the a series and go 16v |
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Post by dai9fxey on Mar 10, 2009 21:41:25 GMT 1
The 286 cam is basically a wild rally cam and the 296 is a full race cam.
Both are a bit mad for road use.
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Post by jjitaljob on Mar 10, 2009 23:08:25 GMT 1
out of the 2 (swifttune sw10 and morspeed ph3) which would you reccomend? these both sound tempting but the sw10 is sounding more tempting after reading about it on there site.
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Post by ljonez on Mar 10, 2009 23:16:43 GMT 1
out of the 2 (swifttune sw10 and morspeed ph3) which would you recommend? these both sound tempting but the sw10 is sounding more tempting after reading about it on there site. I'd probably go for the sw10, mainly on the grounds that swift tune have been at it longer ( more experiance may be?  ) and morspeed customer service isn't the best. when i ordered my sw5 i explained i was desperate for a cam as i had been let down by morspeed and i had it next day delivery at no extra charge ;D also the sw10 are made from billet steel and not re-ground cams so theres no exchange profile wise tho theres no real difference |
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Post by dai9fxey on Mar 10, 2009 23:27:05 GMT 1
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Post by ljonez on Mar 10, 2009 23:42:43 GMT 1
ah i remeber that thread from minifinity a few years ago, some nice copy and pasteing from dog  don't forget that its the cam which sets the spec of the rest of the engine. to get the best from a 286/SW10 you will be wanting the complete bottom end lightened and balanced including flywheel to allow the engine to rev up quicker to the power band. also with the SW10 producing most of its power at 5k+ you'll want a center main strap. head wise you'll be looking at least a stage 3 head. if you go 286/SW10 I'd seriously look at mappable ignition to make it more bare-able in town and release some extra power |
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Post by jjitaljob on Mar 11, 2009 19:50:25 GMT 1
the plan was to go duplex with aldon dizzy and vernier pulley, centre oil pick up and centre main strap. stage 3 head can be sorted. what cam would suit those mods?
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Post by dai9fxey on Mar 11, 2009 20:37:52 GMT 1
It looks like the SW10 should fit the bill nicely.
As LJ said, if you can get a lightened flywheel as well the engine should be a good reliable road goer.
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Post by ljonez on Mar 11, 2009 22:20:47 GMT 1
sounds like the sw10 is abought right for what you want then.
it might be worth going for a rota-slide cam gear to save messing around with off-set keys etc, you do pay a fair amount more for them tho. getting the timing spot on is essential with the wilder cams
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Post by jjitaljob on Mar 12, 2009 19:28:12 GMT 1
yes id go for vernier gear. lightening and balancing flywheel can be done without fuss. i didnt want to do 2 much regards block work thats the hole idea to see what i can do with mostly bolt on and adjustable goodies. the mini is well upto the job of any enigne now so thats not an issue. only thing is the brakes but thats not a big issue.
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) and morspeed customer service isn't the best. when i ordered my sw5 i explained i was desperate for a cam as i had been let down by morspeed and i had it next day delivery at no extra charge ;D
