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Jan 10, 2008 17:44:44 GMT 1
Post by thereddwarf on Jan 10, 2008 17:44:44 GMT 1
got all the bits and peices onto the mini....(new carb, dizzy ect)
shes got a spark, shes got petrol going to the carb, but will not start.
i set the dizzy up as per haynes, all tdc'd and plug leads are in the right order, but thats as far as my limited knowlegde on carbs/timing goes
anyone got any ideas as to what to try, gonna be out at the garage till late tonight but byrons poping in every now and again to relay and suggestions you great people have...!!!!
thanksyou
julie
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Jan 10, 2008 18:00:33 GMT 1
Post by jc1380s on Jan 10, 2008 18:00:33 GMT 1
OK, I may be completely wrong here and barking up the wrong tree but you know that spindly rod thingy that you drop into the hole in the engine under the dizzy which has an offset slot in the top and a splined gear toothed bit in the bottom?
Take it out, turn it through 180* so that the offset is the opposite way round and then refit the dizzy and try to start the engine.
I have known that to be the problem before and it causes your timing to be 180* out.
Shot in the dark I know but worth a try
Good luck
jc
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Jan 10, 2008 18:19:44 GMT 1
Post by byron101 on Jan 10, 2008 18:19:44 GMT 1
we already tried that 1 mate  |
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Jan 10, 2008 18:25:33 GMT 1
Post by jc1380s on Jan 10, 2008 18:25:33 GMT 1
Bummer!!!!!   Have you tried just slackening the clamp on the dizzy and turning it 10* to the left or right in increments while trying to start the engine each time? jc |
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Jan 10, 2008 18:30:47 GMT 1
Post by jc1380s on Jan 10, 2008 18:30:47 GMT 1
Glad its not only me then Phil ;D
jc
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Jan 10, 2008 18:39:46 GMT 1
Post by byron101 on Jan 10, 2008 18:39:46 GMT 1
 cheers guys will give that a go now along with a lot of praying tool throwing 
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Jan 10, 2008 18:55:44 GMT 1
Post by jc1380s on Jan 10, 2008 18:55:44 GMT 1
Boycie, if that last suggestion still doesnt work try the 180* option again followed by the 10* steps option once more.
jc
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Jan 10, 2008 19:02:36 GMT 1
Post by byron101 on Jan 10, 2008 19:02:36 GMT 1
no luck with the 10* option will try the 180* + 10* again mate |
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Jan 10, 2008 19:31:23 GMT 1
Post by dai9fxey on Jan 10, 2008 19:31:23 GMT 1
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Jan 10, 2008 19:35:12 GMT 1
Post by byron101 on Jan 10, 2008 19:35:12 GMT 1
ripped injection out + loom now + got standard mini loom + hif44 carb now dai
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Jan 10, 2008 19:39:47 GMT 1
Post by dai9fxey on Jan 10, 2008 19:39:47 GMT 1
ripped injection out + loom now + got standard mini loom + hif44 carb now dai I thought you had. I Don't think that sensor would come into play with the new set up anyway. I'll go and scratch my head some more..  |
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Jan 10, 2008 19:47:18 GMT 1
Post by biker on Jan 10, 2008 19:47:18 GMT 1
have you checked the plug leads are in the right order working from the fan back wards 1234 as they are on the block and you should be having a firing order of 1342. also i remember jc having a problem with the little black box on the side of the dizzy. he also had a problem with a cut out switch he put in have you got anything like that?. have you altered the mixture at all?. and the obvious oil in the dsah pot?.
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Jan 10, 2008 19:54:00 GMT 1
Post by dai9fxey on Jan 10, 2008 19:54:00 GMT 1
Are the plugs wet with petrol.??
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Jan 10, 2008 19:54:39 GMT 1
Post by byron101 on Jan 10, 2008 19:54:39 GMT 1
have you checked the plug leads are in the right order working from the fan back wards 1234 as they are on the block and you should be having a firing order of 1342. also i remember jc having a problem with the little black box on the side of the dizzy. he also had a problem with a cut out switch he put in have you got anything like that?. have you altered the mixture at all?. and the obvious oil in the dsah pot?. plug leadschecked + right order etc, no black box + cut off switch has been disconnected from when ripped out other system. think mixture ok + oil in dash pot |
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Jan 10, 2008 19:56:27 GMT 1
Post by byron101 on Jan 10, 2008 19:56:27 GMT 1
Are the plugs wet with petrol.?? yes they were dai + cleaned up etc |
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Jan 10, 2008 19:59:51 GMT 1
Post by jc1380s on Jan 10, 2008 19:59:51 GMT 1
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Jan 10, 2008 20:05:04 GMT 1
Post by dai9fxey on Jan 10, 2008 20:05:04 GMT 1
Is the Air Filter fitted.?? And have you got a spark at the plugs.?? I'm thinking that the Dizzy cap is not compatible with the Rotor Arm. Or vice versa. |
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Jan 10, 2008 20:09:51 GMT 1
Post by biker on Jan 10, 2008 20:09:51 GMT 1
you say no black box on side of dizzy? so would i be right in assuming your running points. if so check gap condition what the condenser thingy like. is there a crack in the cap.
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Jan 10, 2008 20:34:45 GMT 1
Post by byron101 on Jan 10, 2008 20:34:45 GMT 1
OK time for some really stupid questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rotor arm fitted? Plug gaps set to 25 thou? jc yes !!!!!!!! electrics now working fine after changed wireing loom as per probs before lol distributor taken off my cabrio + was working fine on there but julies car wont start now with my distrubutor on ? need to check gap tomoz as lost my feeler gauge |
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Jan 10, 2008 20:36:55 GMT 1
Post by byron101 on Jan 10, 2008 20:36:55 GMT 1
Is the Air Filter fitted.?? And have you got a spark at the plugs.?? I'm thinking that the Dizzy cap is not compatible with the Rotor Arm. Or vice versa. air filter not fitted yet + spark present at plugs dizzy cap + rotar arm should be ok as off the cabrio + was ok on there  |
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cheers guys will give that a go now along with a lot of praying tool throwing 
Umm. With my limited knowledge of Injection Hengines, Does the flywheel have a Timing sensor or some sort of Pick up on it for the Injection / Timing.
