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Post by coedy on Aug 19, 2009 12:15:50 GMT 1
How do I get these little buggers out? Waited 2 weeks for my quickshift (that I bought in the IMM  ) and now two little slithers of metal are stopping progress!!!!  Dont really want to drop the housing down from under the car because that would mean removing my entire exhaust system (its one piece) tried doing it from inside the car and knocking the pins out through the housing (to make sure they dont drop down into it) and can only get one of them move about 2mm... help / suggestions welcome |
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Post by taffy1967 on Aug 19, 2009 17:44:58 GMT 1
Do you mean the roll pins that secure the rod change arms beneath the car?
You really need a roll pin punch (available from any good tool suppliers), but a suitable sized steel rod would do the same job.
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Post by coedy on Aug 19, 2009 18:59:52 GMT 1
Yep we tried! Not budging! Do i knock them in from the outside? Or from the inside? They arnt tapered are they? Even tried droping the housing down by undoing the two half inch nuts, but one of them just spins arond |
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 19, 2009 19:08:58 GMT 1
No t done one of these Coedy. I have used a suitable sized nail, point sawn off, before though. It needed a fair old clout to get the pin out of the gearbox linkage. |
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Post by taffy1967 on Aug 19, 2009 19:40:46 GMT 1
Yes those roll pins can be right little bleeders.
But you need something that just fits the hole their in, so it's able to drift them out and it does take a few good strikes.
If you're trying to release the one closest to the transmission housing, then it's best to put the car in reverse (or is it 2nd gear? I can never remember). Either way, one or the other will give easier access to the hole.
It's also worth securing the rod in place with something like a piece of wood, so the rod doesn't bounce around whilst you're striking the roll pin.
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Post by coedy on Aug 19, 2009 21:15:46 GMT 1
yeah we have the drifter sets, so ive been using one of those that seems to be the same size. seems to be some confusion as to what im trying to get out... take off gear gaiter. take out carpets. take out screws for the weather guard for the great big hole in the floor your gear stick goes through. push down on the dome cap, then twist anticlockwise, that comes off. give the gear stick a pull, that comes out. your stuck with two pins sticking out of where the gear stick was.  (the red bits...top down view.. lol.) ill try bracing it with a piece of wood tomorrow, it bounces about a lot... also a bigger hammer... i was worried about mashing the pin into the actual housing from hitting it at a squiffy angle... |
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Post by taffy1967 on Aug 19, 2009 22:05:55 GMT 1
Sorry coedy, I was actually referring to the roll pins that are located on the rods beneath the car and not in the selector box itself.
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Post by coedy on Aug 19, 2009 22:49:26 GMT 1
well i'll still take your advice of jamming some wood next to the selector box as that does bounce about when I whack it... cheers ;D
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Post by taffy1967 on Aug 19, 2009 22:53:58 GMT 1
It should make a big difference and I hope you get it sorted.
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Post by Ainsley on Aug 21, 2009 13:09:25 GMT 1
Did you sort this out? I was confused when i did mine as i was told get grips and yank them out which didn't work  in the end i had my engine out (for different reasons) and droped it out and knocked the pins inwards mine had plenty of grease in there so i didnt lose them  have you got a KAD quickshift or like a minisport/spares one? |
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Post by coedy on Aug 21, 2009 13:23:35 GMT 1
KAD one, the new one with the grease nipple, I have heard of loads of people buying the rip off ones and having to hack the old gear stick to pieces. didn't fancy that. Plus I had tried a KAD one before, and I had tried a rip off before and the Kad had a nice well built clunk when you get a gear, the rip off one you seemed to have to fight more...
My dad is going to be helping me tonight after work. so hopefully should be sorted tonight... *fingers crossed*
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Post by coedy on Aug 21, 2009 20:02:46 GMT 1
We are having a pigging nightmare with this bloody thing... wishing I had only spent £30 on one of the Sh**y ones... at least then I would be able to get the bloody thing off to chuck across the drive when it doesn't work!
I thought KAD were pro's at manufacturing things to within amazingly fine tolerances out of great quality materials?
Its currently jammed firmly in place, not 0.0001" of movement in it. we can lift the entire selector housing right up to touch the exhaust tunnel by just lifting the gear stick up to try and remove it.
I also do not have 3rd, or 4th.
And I have Clydach market show on Sunday
im so glad I bought KAD.....possibly otherwise known as KAK....
Ive sent them an email...
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 21, 2009 21:18:59 GMT 1
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Post by coedy on Aug 21, 2009 21:25:24 GMT 1
I hadn't noticed any pin inside the cup? its stuck now either way! lol
cant see the ball being too high for the other gears really because we we pushing down on the stick itself while trying to line the holes up....
have to try and get this off! once I get it off ill see if I can find the little 'pin' although as I said I don't remember there being anything under the cup other than the ball which the rod swivels on?
to try and get it off weve tried yanking it, twisting it, crow-bar (that was scary) nothing. it seems to quite like my car....
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 21, 2009 21:36:07 GMT 1
PM sent.
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Post by coedy on Aug 21, 2009 21:57:38 GMT 1
what's this on about? (found on TMF) or is it for if you've removed the system from the car?
(thanks for the PM Dai)
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 22, 2009 18:39:20 GMT 1
I think it's for when the whole lot is off the car.
I stripped a remote today and i only had 1 pin actually in the housing as opposed to your 2.
That is, 2 pins but only one that is going through the housing into the side of the gearstick.
Checked the other one and that was exactly the same.
Both gearsticks only had one slot in them to slide over the aforementioned pin/s.
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Post by coedy on Aug 22, 2009 18:53:01 GMT 1
yeah we noticed that when we put my original one back in today.
(managed to get the KAD one off by putting a crow bar under it and tapping the remote housing with a hammer...)
there's no notch or anything in the KAD one, there is a big scratch on the inside of the KAD collar where it must have been binding, even though we put it on level each time? we tried once more and we only got 1st, 2nd and reverse again (reverse without using the collar lift)
I've put my standard one back in for now so i can get to the show (put the drift pins back in, should come out easier next time).
Think I will get a spare remote housing and fit the KAD to that off the car, fettle it as It needs it (KAD's fantastic build quality *cough* has yet to show its face, though we will see) and then if it works ill chuck that remote on my car.
the only other thing I can think of is that my remote is out of shape? my remote housing top collar has a chunk knocked out of it (nothing drastic, just a chip... It was like that when I got there the first day...) and I think maybe this has made the collar not completely round. which means that possibly that's why the round KAD collar wont go down all the way, which is why the bolts don't line up, and because of which the gear selector on the end of the shifter is jumping over the reversing gate (as its held too high up) and as such will go into reverse fine, but wont let you go into 3rd and 4th.
(try lifting your gear stick while trying to select 3rd and its as if the gate doesn't exist)
Thats the only logical explanation I can come to, and even that is a bit far fetched. my dads not too sure on it... lol
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Post by dai9fxey on Aug 22, 2009 19:01:24 GMT 1
Hmmm, could well be right regarding the out of shape collar thingy. That would explain the overtightness. Why you can't 3rd and4th is a mystery though.  |
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Post by coedy on Aug 22, 2009 19:13:23 GMT 1
well, if I try and select 4th I get reverse.
So my thinking is, if its not going down far enough it will be going straight over the reverse gate all the time anyway (as if your pulling up to select reverse) so as a result will always hit reverse instead of 4th. and it wont go into 3rd. Im presuming if I went to the car now with the standard stick, pulled up and tried to get 3rd it wouldn't go in either, same as the KAD not going in far enough.
I think? although my dads not too sure...
what confuses things is the fact I can still get 1st and 2nd...
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) and now two little slithers of metal are stopping progress!!!! 
in the end i had my engine out (for different reasons) and droped it out and knocked the pins inwards mine had plenty of grease in there so i didnt lose them 
have you got a KAD quickshift or like a minisport/spares one? 
