phill54
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70 mph in second gear come on baby[F4:phillip401]
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Post by phill54 on Sept 17, 2011 21:11:32 GMT 1
finally got my mini back together thanks to endaff (0wens motorsport)
car started fine and was running ok but had small miss and now it wornt start when she is hot
any ideas
thanks phill
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Post by dai9fxey on Sept 17, 2011 21:48:01 GMT 1
Sounds electrical to me Phill. Are you using standard points and condenser type ignition.?
If so, could be the condenser breaking down.
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phill54
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70 mph in second gear come on baby[F4:phillip401]
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Post by phill54 on Sept 17, 2011 22:00:26 GMT 1
Yeah pal I am useing standard its 45d is it
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gavinhendy
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Williams Car Care, [F4:gavin williams]
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Post by gavinhendy on Sept 17, 2011 22:10:10 GMT 1
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Post by dai9fxey on Sept 17, 2011 22:10:56 GMT 1
That sounds about right for the dizzy.
Check that your points haven't closed, just in case.
The latest licenced Lucas parts are pants, those in the green / white boxes.
Heard many a tale of the present Lucas gear packing up within a short space of time.
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phill54
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70 mph in second gear come on baby[F4:phillip401]
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Post by phill54 on Sept 17, 2011 22:27:27 GMT 1
ok thanks dai will try it the points i have in mine were in a blue and red box think they are gm parts
and gav i did have electronic on it but it was no good packed up str5ight away
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gavinhendy
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Williams Car Care, [F4:gavin williams]
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Post by gavinhendy on Sept 17, 2011 22:38:38 GMT 1
Ooooh so it will only start from cold , I don't have a clue what thay could be pal
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Post by jackdaw on Sept 18, 2011 8:32:24 GMT 1
I agree that its the points that are the cause of non starting when hot.  Had the points gap close all by itself on my MGB not so long ago.  Fitted an electronic ignition dizzy and all has been fine since.  Electronic "modules" that fit in or on the dizzy are OK but replacing the dizzy with a fully electronic dizzy is a safer (but more expensive!) option long term.  |
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gavinhendy
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Williams Car Care, [F4:gavin williams]
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Post by gavinhendy on Sept 18, 2011 12:11:25 GMT 1
Try that kit I put up mate , never have go worry about points again
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phill54
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70 mph in second gear come on baby[F4:phillip401]
Posts: 373
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Post by phill54 on Sept 18, 2011 19:48:32 GMT 1
found out what it was the rotor arm had bent on the end so it wasnt working right sorted that then the windscreen wipers stoped working
what sort of advance on the dissy do i need for my car
its a 1380 with cam 1.5 rockers and a webber carb i have set it to 4 for now anyone now
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Post by dai9fxey on Sept 18, 2011 21:30:06 GMT 1
A 1275 cooper s is 2 degrees BTDC. That's about the norm for a 1275 engine, but the only way to get it spot on is on the rollers.
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Post by jackdaw on Sept 19, 2011 13:37:27 GMT 1
You could go about it another (cheaper) way phil....... Get everything cleaned and gapped correctly (plugs, points etc) then slightly loosen the securing bolt on the dizzy so that it can be turned. With the engine warm and running (no choke!) adjust the dizzy CW or CCW a fraction at a time then run the car around to ensure no backfiring or no "pinking" of the engine. When you are happy that its running correctly, mark the position of the dizzy against the engine block. You can then use a timing light to see exactly what advance / retard settings you've ended up with against the timing marks for future reference. Ask Gav if you need a 2nd opinion on this method as it seemed to work quite well for him before he pulled his engine out! ;D   ;D
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gavinhendy
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Post by gavinhendy on Sept 19, 2011 15:36:04 GMT 1
Verry true mr jackdaw , this was a verry effective way of finding the right timing , made my car hell of a lot faster aswell , no terrible bacfiring for me anymore :-)
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phill54
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70 mph in second gear come on baby[F4:phillip401]
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Post by phill54 on Sept 19, 2011 15:55:20 GMT 1
will try that now jackdaw see what happens
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Post by jackdaw on Sept 19, 2011 15:58:46 GMT 1
And I'll tell you what I told Gav ! Remember to re-tighten the dizzy bolt when you finish !!!!!  ;D |
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gavinhendy
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Post by gavinhendy on Sept 19, 2011 16:35:48 GMT 1
Yes :-)
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phill54
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70 mph in second gear come on baby[F4:phillip401]
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Post by phill54 on Sept 19, 2011 16:39:31 GMT 1
lol hahahah all done now running much better now
thanks guys
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Post by jackdaw on Sept 20, 2011 16:16:40 GMT 1
Did you retighten that dizzy securing bolt Phil ;D |
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